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Title: Goodsongs Are Slowing Down
Post by: Digger on February 26, 2014, 09:04:36 PM
From Goodsong Manor,

As the end of this release approaches for all five of my characters, we will be slowing down a bit and considering visiting other worlds.  We will always be present for the big battle nights and festivals, but honestly, running HD solo is depressing and we are looking with interest to ESO now.  Is anyone else besides Perigard considering living in two worlds?  If so, we might form up and explore together.

Digger


Title: Re: Goodsongs Are Slowing Down
Post by: Orophor on February 27, 2014, 02:17:56 AM
While this is sad news to me, I can completely understand. The slow pace of updates and the few friends online make LotRO a lonely game these days.

For my part, I haven't the time to start a new game, and the Elder Scrolls series has never been my favorite, even though I've played them all (but none to completion). Really none of the current or announced MMOs have grabbed me. I guess I will wait for SWTOR or LotRO to have a serious update worth coming back for. The last game I played for any serious time was Ni No Kuni: Wrath of the White Witch on the PS3. It was a great single-player RPG, but it would be nice to find a game we can all play together.

O



Title: Re: Goodsongs Are Slowing Down
Post by: Digger on February 27, 2014, 08:57:16 AM
Now, my old friend Orophor, this doesn't mean I am leaving at all.  I will be on and off but not as much. 

There are other concerns I have with Lotro as it has evolved over time as well.  I grow tired of making and remaking legendary weapons when I would prefer to make one and then improve and enhance it at a much lower cost of time and coin.  I also am delighted with the current story but find some of it needs attention that it lacks - some quests are really great and others are trivial actions but both produce the basic same rewards.  The gating of crafting with these rare emerald shards is a pain when you think that 5 chars need each 6 armour pieces plus 3 LIs plus tools and swords and all require that one item - the emerald shard.  And when I am done with that, I don't really need any of it to play the big battles well or to do the landscape battles.  And then finally, since I am kvetching a bit, why do walnuts look like acorns, why are all locations since Snowborne the same icon, and several other little nits that annoy.  It is time to push back and get a fresh perspective for me.

I will be here for all the fun stuff but less often.

Digger


Title: Re: Goodsongs Are Slowing Down
Post by: Baridoc on February 28, 2014, 08:36:05 AM
While this is sad news to me, I can completely understand. The slow pace of updates and the few friends online make LotRO a lonely game these days.

I'm sorry to hear this O. I think you might like ESO if you gave it a try. It's not a multi-player version of Skyrim and it has some very nice group functions and guild perks. Goodness knows I would love to have you there with us.

Perigard and the rest of my family will NEVER leave LOTRO, of course. I love the lore too much to every walk away.. and why would I with a permanent account? ;) But the game is not what it once was and turbine doesn't seem to care as much anymore about giving us quality content. I'll still be there when/if we reach mordor... but I thought a new game might be fun to try as a group.

Hope you change your mind because you will surely be missed. :(

With all Hobbity affection...
Baridoc and family.



Title: Re: Goodsongs Are Slowing Down
Post by: Kethrandir on March 01, 2014, 12:16:41 PM
I've been doing a little soul-searching on this point as well, Digger.  Once my characters reach the level cap, complete all the landscape quests, reach maximum reputation, and reach rank 4 or 5 in the Big Battles system, there aren't a lot of things that draw me back.  Certainly kin events are a big one, as are the Moors (occasionally), crafting for alts, and just to explore the landscape.  Starting and playing lower-level alts can be great fun for me too.  But overall, each release seems to bring with it a small drop in the number of friends who used to make LotRO such an exciting, dynamic place.  It makes me that much more grateful when I see you all online!

Gaming for me is a hobby for weekday evenings and the weekend.  It is also a zero-sum activity.  Time spent in other games I love (Skyrim, Age of Empires II, the Witcher series...) comes out of my LotRO time, and vice versa.  In that context, throwing ESO into the mix scares me a bit.  I suspect that I'll love it.   ;D  If so, I would really love to meet up with everyone!  There's a fairly large group of people who drifted away from LotRO awhile ago that I hope to see and play with again also.  If I find out that different groups are on different servers, the decision will be a difficult and awkward one.  I'd hate to have to play different games to see each group, but that might be the only way to (re)connect with as many old friends as possible.  Time will tell.

But I really must echo Digger and Baridoc's comments:  I will certainly be playing LotRO for as long as they keep a server running!

Edit:  Looking into things a bit deeper, I'll be interested to see/hear how Zenimax's 'mega server' implementation impacts the formation and function of guilds.  If we're all able to interact with each other, even if some 'channel' jumping is required, that might solve a number of problems. 


Title: Re: Goodsongs Are Slowing Down
Post by: Digger on March 01, 2014, 03:09:45 PM
Keth,

Thanks for your thoughtful comments.  It is much the same for me.  The true fun and laughter is with groups of folks together, and playing ESO whittles away at lotro time.  One bit of good news is that in ESO everyone is on the same 'server'.  Chars are auto placed in virtual servers with friends and kin.  So one server to rule them all, as it were.  Also, an account can join up to five kinships or guilds.  When a char joins, all alts are also members of that guild.  No real AH except among the guilds.  Interesting approach.  I am going to give it a go and see.  Also, I can't let Peri go alone into that dark world.

Digger


Title: Re: Goodsongs Are Slowing Down
Post by: Baridoc on March 05, 2014, 10:39:52 AM
Also, I can't let Peri go alone into that dark world.

He WOULD be devastated without his Shire-friend...  and ALL his kinmates to be sure.

Keth, I hope your research turns up some good information. I haven't been part of a guild while beta testing ESO so I have no direct knowledge of how it works EXCEPT that I know you can be in up to **5 guilds** at once which, to me, seems silly a all getout. There are benefits to guilding up though. And it would be fantastic if some of our friends who have gone in other directions could be drawn back to game with us in Tamriel! What an exciting thought!

They're doing a new update today so I hope I've got more news for all of you once we get the new 'stuff' to play with. So far the game has many more good points than bad ones.. though there ARE things that I don't like... probably because I'm not used to them. Digger and I have had conversations about grouping and alliances and I found this out:

Can you group with other alliances?
Group = No, only your alliance
Guild = Yes, any alliance can join
Cyrodiil (PVP area) = No, only your alliance

Digger and I also (correct me if I'm wrong, Master Goodsong) think that the Daggerfall Covenant would be the most alliance best suited to out type of game play. I am testing out a Breton Sorcerer right now from that alliance to see how it goes. So far I really like him. At level 15 you can do weapon-swapping and I intend to also have him carry a restoration staff so that he can heal.

At this point I'm not overly fond of the 'Hunter (Archer)" function. Hopefully they'll improve it as time goes on, but the races and classes are all VERY flexible in terms of armor and weapons, though there ARE advantages to wearing certain kind of armor with certain classes (ie: sorcerer gets more magicia etc with light armor).

Crafting is fun, but they REALLY need to boost the amount of inventory space. Guilds get, of course, their own bank which helps.

More from Tamriel soon.

With all Hobbity Affection...
Baridoc... and family.



Title: Re: Goodsongs Are Slowing Down
Post by: Baridoc on March 07, 2014, 01:14:03 PM
OK. The latest upgrade gave us more inventory space (which has been an issue loudly discussed) and also more bank space. I haven't been able to be on much because they're doing another hot fix today so the server is off-line, but from what I saw for the brief time I WAS on ... the added space is substantial and helps a lot.

Also... this link gives a lot of info.

http://esohead.com/

You can create builds and also look at creation in crafting. As a sorcerer, I'm focusing on woodworking (destruction and healing staffs) and clothing (Light and Medium armor).

If when we go in as a guild we will (I believe) want to each focus on one or two types of crafting... much as we do in LOTRO and supply each other. There IS a Guild 'story' but we've never charged each other for making stuff so i doubt we'd do it that way.

If you pre-order the 'Imperial' edition you get a few perks including a starter horse. A good deal since horses in this game at REALLY expensive. The horse can be used for extra storage and can be leveled up.

This is also an interesting link: http://www.teso-rp.com/forum/m/9324623/viewthread/8889919-guild-importance-in-teso

Quite frankly, I think this game is geared toward grouping... though only slightly. There are bosses that you have a REALLY hard time doing solo and there group dungeons all over the place which have their own evolving story line and great loot. I have not tried any of these. Not done any real grouping. But I hear it's super fun.

That's my latest report.

With Hobbity Hugs....
Bari



Title: Re: Goodsongs Are Slowing Down
Post by: Kethrandir on March 07, 2014, 03:29:59 PM
Keep these reports coming, Baridoc!  Great info.

I started a character over this past weekend and really liked what I was seeing.  My biggest challenge will be coming up with a character that I can identify with and enjoy playing.  I may have to roll a few different ones and see which I prefer.  So far I'm particularly fond of the Aldmer and the Bosmer, neither of which are in the Daggerfall Covenant (oh no!).  I never got around to any of the crafting or grouping opportunities.  But I certainly enjoyed my early experience!

Keth


Title: Re: Goodsongs Are Slowing Down
Post by: Baridoc on March 08, 2014, 08:16:28 AM
So far I'm particularly fond of the Aldmer and the Bosmer, neither of which are in the Daggerfall Covenant (oh no!).  I never got around to any of the crafting or grouping opportunities.  But I certainly enjoyed my early experience!

Well perhaps we can lure Mr. Goodsong over to the Aldmeri Dominion. He likes elves doesn't he? And... I'm totally up to play a Khajiit... I like them as a Nightblade. Which class did you play? I will add here though that I had a Redguard (Daggerfall Covenant) Dragonknight and he really rocked. So we may end up luring you back to Daggerfall Covenant. ;) And actually... I know this sounds weird... but the Orcs in this game are actually quite nice. They're not the drooling monsters they are in LOTR. They have a rich culture and once you get to know them in the game you change how you feel about them. I know they LOOK like bad guys.. but they're not.

I'm liking my Breton Sorcerer so far. If we went AD I'd have to play a High Elf I imagine to get the same class. I wasn't fond of their archery. Tried it as a Wood Elf. Did you give it a go?

No, I haven't done any grouping as yet either. I really want to wait in order to do that with my friends... all of YOU!

Only a month 'til launch. They're doing a LOT of hotfixes lately... you can feel the rush to get things completed before launch. The fun of the beta I'm part of is that we get content that no one else gets... not even the other 'beta' players. It's fun. And I will add that I've been VERY impressed with the responsiveness of the TESO team. They have made substantial changes based on our recommendations and their customer servers is first rate! A big improvement over Turbine to be sure.

Can't wait to see all of you in game. It's just not as much fun without my kin-mates.

With Hobbity Hugs....
Bari and family


Title: Re: Goodsongs Are Slowing Down
Post by: Digger on March 09, 2014, 07:23:15 AM
I am open to any of the Alliances as long as we can learn together and battle together.  So lead on and I will follow.

Digger


Title: Re: Goodsongs Are Slowing Down
Post by: Baridoc on March 09, 2014, 08:27:32 AM
I'm happy to hear that Shire-friend. I feel the same. I don't care which way we go as long as we're together. And.. OH! You can be in up to 5 guilds, SO it is possible that we could EACH have a character in a different alliance, just to try them out, form a guild with THOSE characters... and still be able to quest together as a group. I think THAT may be the justification for being able to be in 5 guilds at once. I'll have to check to be sure... but I feel certain that includes *forming* guilds. In any case we aren't really limited to any one alliance.

A word or two about crafting. Just things I wish I'd known when I first started. As I said, it would be wise to specialize. One of us take blacksmithing (iron weapons and heavy armor), another woodworking (bows,staffs, shields) and/or clothing (light and medium armor). All crafted materials have levels of quality that can be upgraded IF you have the required materials. Your crafting skills level as you go. Raw materials are all over the landscape. You don't need to buy a tool in order to harvest. It's automatic.

Each race has a  'stone' particular to them which you must have in order to craft items for that particular race. The stones can be purchased. So to do a plain old sword you'd need at a minimum enough ore to create the number of ingots necessary and at least ONE stone for the race in question. You are able to work on your own race as soon as you create your character but to work  on *other* races' items you need to 'learn' it with a recipe... and those are rare.

To make fancier weapons or armor with additional traits on them you need to learn 'traits' and have the stone associated with that trait. You learn traits by 'researching'. In order to do that research, an item WITH that trait must be in  your inventory. Then, at the crafting center you begin your research through the crafting panel. It takes hours for the research to be completed but then you can add the trait to anything you craft IF you have the proper stone. It's hard because each item has different traits.. ie: a fire staff has different traits than an ice staff... so to learn them all will take tons of time.. and I think that's how they wanted it.

Any item you claim as 'loot' can be 1. researched to learn traits, 2. upgraded if you have the required materials, or 3. deconstructed to gain more crafting materials.

Weapons and armor can also be 'enchanted' with glyphs which are created by the enchanting craft. These glyphs add enhancements, items do more damage, spells use less mana.. etc. Enchanting is the hardest craft. The items you need are scarce. But when you get them and learn the craft it can really beef up your weapons, armor, and jewelry.

When I craft the first thing I check is whether or not I have an item I can research to learn a new trait. Then I refine any raw ore or wood, or cloth/hide I may have. Then I deconstruct any items I don't want or don't want to save for later researching. Then I create. As soon as I create I check to see if I have the necessary materials to *upgrade* the item. If I do.. I try for an upgrade. If I succeed, I get a much better weapon or armor and my upgrading skills improve. If I fail the item is destroyed. You do NOT succeed often at first. You fail quite a bit.

Crafting in this game is a process. It's slow at first. You can choose to use the skill points you get when you level up to enhance your crafting abilities, ie: there's a function called 'keen eye'. If you use a skill point for it, the raw materials you need for your crafting are surrounded by smoke and very MUCH easier to see. The gathering of raw materials for crafting is very much tied to exploration.

Crafting is a process in this game and I find it to be a lot of fun. My Breton Sorcerer is specializing in Clothing and Woodwork... so I used a skill point in 'keen eye' in both those crafts so I can see the wood and clothing plants much more easily. Other crafting skills (the ones that use skill points) make it easier to get materials for upgrading items when you deconstruct, let you 'hire' someone who sends you materials once a day, etc...

I hope I didn't make it sound too complicated. I actually like the process quite a lot. I tell you all this to emphasize the point that which crafting area we each want to focus on is something we'll need to discuss from the get go. It's a waste of time to try to do all of them... though we will certainly share materials.

With all Hobbity love and affection...
Bari



Title: ESO Update from Our Scout
Post by: Digger on March 10, 2014, 11:38:30 AM
Peri,

This sounds delightful and very complex which is typical of ES games.  I think I shall head towards a blacksmith for my craft with possibly going for a heavy armor character.  I was sorry to learn from you and others that bows are a bit nerfed here, cause I think striking first with a bow and closing for melee might be my approach.  I find using magic in ES difficult and not as simple to use on a first character.  Glad you are going with a magic wielder.  Also, I am registered for the next beta test and hope to learn some first-hand things with that.

Digger


Title: Re: ESO Update from Our Scout
Post by: Baridoc on March 10, 2014, 12:36:10 PM
I think I shall head towards a blacksmith for my craft with possibly going for a heavy armor character.  I was sorry to learn from you and others that bows are a bit nerfed here, cause I think striking first with a bow and closing for melee might be my approach. 

Then I'll focus on Woodworking and Clothing. However I WILL harvest iron nodes whenever I see them and put them in the guild bank for you to use. And... I can make bows or staffs for any who need them or light/medium armor.

The Nightblade is a very cool melee warrior, http://elderscrollsonline.info/nightblade (http://elderscrollsonline.info/nightblade). They have one skill where there literally LEAP on mobs from out of thin air and stun them as they land (teleport strike I think). I loved that class. Didn't do a Dragonknight but they're also a heavy weapon/armor sword swinger for DC. Here's another Nightblade  link. http://www.wikihow.com/Play-a-Nightblade-in-Elder-Scrolls-Online (http://www.wikihow.com/Play-a-Nightblade-in-Elder-Scrolls-Online)

I wouldn't discount the bows just yet. They need some love, there's no question. But at lvl 15 you get a weapon swap function where a bow might work very well for just the purpose you describe. And I really believe that the bows WILL get some attention before launch. We've made a lot of noise about that issue. And I can make you some VERY cool bows!! :)

I thought the same thing about magic users in TESO until I really focused on my sorcerer. I discovered the trick is to put almost ALL my skill points into mana. I have almost nothing in health or stamina. He's probably pretty mushy, BUT nothing gets close enough to me to find out. BOOM! Big destruction fire staff and they are ash.

Also... the fighters guild offers a skill called 'Silver Bolts' that is just a long distance KILLER esp on undead and Deadra. Used with my staffs and magic... not much gets anywhere near me.

Less than a month 'til launch!! Woot!

With all Hobbity hugs and affection...
Bari



Title: Re: Goodsongs Are Slowing Down
Post by: Ariadan on March 11, 2014, 01:25:50 PM
Now you've done it!!  The Goodsong investigation of ESO and Baridoc's research have got me pining for some adventures with very old friends.

I would be honored to adventure with those of you that travel to ESO.  

Ariadan


Title: Re: Goodsongs Are Slowing Down
Post by: Baridoc on March 11, 2014, 03:00:14 PM
Now you've done it!!  The Goodsong investigation of ESO and Baridoc's research have got me pining for some adventures with very old friends.

I would be honored to adventure with those of you that travel to ESO.  

Ariadan

Wheeee!! This just gets better and better!! Believe me that the game is going to be a good one. It won't have the Tolkien lore that we all adore... but LOTRO will always be there. We're talking right now about the Daggerfall Covenant... though that may change. We all need to be in the same alliance in order to group. Just FYI.

It's so wonderful that you're going to join us!!  :D

With Hobbity Hugs...
Bari


Title: Re: Goodsongs Are Slowing Down
Post by: Digger on March 11, 2014, 07:36:24 PM
I will make a character for Beta on this Friday, 3/15, so I will be looking for friends when I arrive in Tamriel.  Any names I should seek out?  I don't have a name yet but will post it when I discover it.  See you on Friday Beta.  Joining the Daggerfall Covenant on Friday.

Welcome aboard, Aridan!  Good to have old friends around.

Digger


Title: Re: Goodsongs Are Slowing Down
Post by: Baridoc on March 12, 2014, 08:43:27 AM
I will make a character for Beta on this Friday, 3/15, so I will be looking for friends when I arrive in Tamriel.  Any names I should seek out?  I don't have a name yet but will post it when I discover it.  See you on Friday Beta.  Joining the Daggerfall Covenant on Friday.


I've been playing in the Psijic Order beta so I'm quickly downloading the Friday beta and will be there with bells on. Look for a handsome Breton sorcerer named Perigil. (Thought I'd keep the 'Peri' part at least.) If I can't get that name I'll let you know somehow. Do post yours when you decide on it.

Only two weeks 'til launch!! Woot!   ;D

See you in Tamriel!!
Baridoc


Title: Re: Goodsongs Are Slowing Down
Post by: Ariadan on March 12, 2014, 01:57:41 PM
I also got to experience the Psijic Order beta.  I was invited because of the rather large guild that gets these kind of offers to test games.  I guess we can now disclose that fact.  I purchased the Imperial Edition for the horse.  However, I have not played for about a month and am woefully behind on my research.

The name of the guild is Gaiscíoch (Pronounced: Gosh-Kia) Family and their website is http://www.gaiscioch.com/. 

Thanks, Baridoc, for the links.  If you have more that are useful then by all means feel free to post them.

Ariadan


Title: Re: Goodsongs Are Slowing Down
Post by: Ariadan on March 12, 2014, 04:14:01 PM
Found this on the Gaiscioch forums.  Sorry about the formatting.

BUILD GENERATORS:

    http://esocalc.com/#1-2c0000000000-0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0
    http://skillcalc.massyx.de/
    http://esohead.com/calculator/skills
    http://skills.tesotools.com/

 
SKILLS LISTS:

    Racial -  http://www.tesoelite.com/race-skills/
    Class  -  http://eldersouls.com/elder-scrolls-online/classes/
    Weapon - http://www.tesoelite.com/weapon-skills/
    Armour - http://www.tesoelite.com/armor-skills/
    Alliance War (PVP) - http://www.tesoelite.com/alliance-war-pvp-skills/
    Crafting - http://www.tesoelite.com/crafting-skills/
    World Skills (Soul Magic, Werewolf, Vampire) - http://www.tesoelite.com/world-skills/
    Guilds - http://www.tesoelite.com/guild-skills/
    All skills in one spreadsheet - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0ArII4nGY0Yf3dC0xM0YtQ3phVnNjUVdCbkJkaUl3VWc&usp=sharing#gid=0
    Crafting 101 - http://tamrielfoundry.com/2014/02/rudrias-crafting-basics/

 
MAPS:

    A very in depth interactive map (zone by zone) - http://tamrielfoundry.com/map/
    Skyshard locations - http://teso.mmorpg-life.com/skyshards/
    Another awesome Skyshard map - http://www.eldestscroll.com/skyshards
    Lore Book Locations - http://teso.mmorpg-life.com/lorebooks-locations-map/
    Official Map - http://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-uk/map/tamriel
    Skyshard and Lorebook Locations - http://maps.tesotools.com/

 
FAN SITES:

    http://tamrielfoundry.com/
    http://www.tesof.com/
    http://teso.mmorpg-life.com/
    http://elderscrollsonline.info/
    http://elderscrollsau.com/
    http://esohead.com/
    http://eldersouls.com/elder-scrolls-online/
    http://www.tesoelite.com/
    http://www.esosorcerer.com/
    http://www.esodragonknight.com/
    http://www.esotemplar.com/
    http://www.esonightblade.com/
    http://www.esohut.com/
    http://dulfy.net/category/eso/
    http://www.eldestscroll.com/
    http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/The_Elder_Scrolls_Wiki

 
LORE::

    An awesome series of youtube clips - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d0Od2lbw9N4&list=PL7pGJQV-jlzCPBUy9uAXQUXZ4UBaDLKS5
    The Imperial Library - Amazing collection of Elder Scrolls Books - http://www.imperial-library.info/

 
PODCASTS:

    Shoddycast - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL7pGJQV-jlzDNBXGWlyGOuIqyMcqYQ9VK
    ESOAlliance - https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=eso%20alliance%20episode%201&sm=3
    ESO Off the Record - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R3QJMTv1Kfk
    Force Strategy - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLlHPIxgE60jJjXj1OavKQr7bcoVzWXOqD

 
OTHER:

    A huge list of hints and tips (beginner to advanced) - http://teso.mmorpg-life.com/eso-tips-tricks/
    Mods - http://mods.tesotools.com/
    TESO Game Mechanics Thread - http://forums.bethsoft.com/topic/1443440-the-comprehensive-eso-mechanics-thread-100-sourced-information/
    List of Controls and Keyboard Commands - http://teso.mmorpg-life.com/teso-list-controls-keyboard-commands/
    How to Improve Your Inventory Space - http://teso.mmorpg-life.com/increase-inventory-space-eso/
    Login Error Codes and Solutions - http://teso.mmorpg-life.com/eso-login-error-codes-solutions/
    An awesome collection of Add-ons - http://www.esoui.com/addons.php
    Foundry Tactical Combat Add-on - http://tamrielfoundry.com/2014/02/foundry-tactical-combat/
    How to get in and out of Cyrodiil (PVP) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9QMnsxOdVqk&feature=c4-overview&list=UUOAPm2wSmUcXcnalav_qmmg
    Top 8 Beginner questions asked in BETA - https://www.tentonhammer.com/teso/top-8-questions
    TESO Emote List - http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Emotes
    Chat and Grouping Commands - http://teso.mmorpg-life.com/teso-chat-grouping/
    Creature List - http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Creatures_%28Online%29


Title: Re: Goodsongs Are Slowing Down
Post by: Baridoc on March 12, 2014, 07:01:35 PM
Found this on the Gaiscioch forums.  Sorry about the formatting.


Wow! What a wealth of info!! Thanks so very much, my friend. Can't wait to see you in Tamriel!

With all Hobbity Affection...
Bari....


Title: Re: Goodsongs Are Slowing Down
Post by: Kethrandir on March 13, 2014, 01:00:56 PM
I have both a beta invite and a patched client installed, but sadly I won't be able to join you all for Tamriel adventures this weekend.  Have fun, as I'll be living vicariously through you all until launch!

Keth


Title: Re: Goodsongs Are Slowing Down
Post by: Baridoc on March 13, 2014, 02:20:01 PM
I have both a beta invite and a patched client installed, but sadly I won't be able to join you all for Tamriel adventures this weekend.  Have fun, as I'll be living vicariously through you all until launch!

Believe me when I tell you that you and Endie WILL be sorely missed. We'll leave a few bad guys for you to nail after launch.

Love and Hobbity Hugs...
Bari...


Title: Re: Goodsongs Are Slowing Down
Post by: Digger on March 13, 2014, 08:22:08 PM
We will miss you both and look forward to seeing you soon.  I am a bit excited now.

Digger


Title: Re: Goodsongs Are Slowing Down
Post by: Baridoc on March 14, 2014, 07:53:23 AM
I have created a character! He's a Breton Sorcerer called Perigil.

Send me a message once you get on board.

Very excited!!

With Hobbity Excitement
Bari...


Title: Re: Goodsongs Are Slowing Down
Post by: Baridoc on March 14, 2014, 08:40:04 AM
A few words.

When you're in the introductory area, particularly after you hook up with 'The Prophet', be SURE to run all around that area and search every single chest, urn, crate, etc.. that you see. Run ALL around and look in every one of them. That part of the intro is an instance so you won't have 1414314314 other people there looting too and there's stuff in those chests that you'll need.

When you get to Daggerfall, go to the docks. They dump you in Daggerfall, but there IS a starter area that we need to run first. It's got items we need and we're still a little too low at that point to make it in the Daggerfall quests. My guy, Perigil, is going to wait for you guys down by the docks where we can board the ship for the starter area... can't remember it's name.

I'll check back here to see if anyone else has gotten in and is there too. We can meet there maybe?

You could send me a text when you're there and I'll log back on: 206 962 0876. I don't want to get ahead of everyone.

Hobbity Hugs...
Bari



Title: Re: Goodsongs Are Slowing Down
Post by: Digger on March 14, 2014, 10:17:22 AM
Digger's cousin has a name and is in the game today until late. He is a Templar of Daggerfall called Uthane Moorcraft.  See you soon.

Digger


Title: Re: Goodsongs Are Slowing Down
Post by: Baridoc on March 14, 2014, 11:07:02 AM
Digger, I'm logged in and looking for him but it says there is no such player. Is that your character's name? Is that your userid? Or your character? I need your character's name AND your userid. My userid is Galan, character name: Perigil. Been trying to contact you but it says you and/or your account don't exist. Send me a text when you get on line and I'll meet you.

Bari..


Title: Re: Goodsongs Are Slowing Down
Post by: Ariadan on March 14, 2014, 11:12:00 AM
Its going to be awhile for me.  >:(  For some reason, I have to download all over again.  I thought I had finished this already on Wednesday.

If I'm lucky it will be done tonight but more likely Saturday morning.  Until then, have fun!!

Ariadan


Title: Re: Goodsongs Are Slowing Down
Post by: Digger on March 14, 2014, 03:35:17 PM
Character is Uthane and userid is tarlwyn.  Sending you a mail. Ariadan, Peri and I connected but odd thing is you need the userid as well as char name.  We are learning and it is all new even as a vet ES player.  Please give us your names and we will connect with you.

Digger


Title: Re: Goodsongs Are Slowing Down
Post by: Ariadan on March 15, 2014, 06:06:13 PM
Digger,

I sent you several whispers in game (from Calraven) but unfortunately you must not have seen them.

Ariadan


Title: Re: Goodsongs Are Slowing Down
Post by: Baridoc on March 17, 2014, 07:46:35 AM
I sent you several whispers in game (from Calraven) but unfortunately you must not have seen them.


I saw something from a Calraven but didn't know it was you.  >:(

We need to know each other's UserID and character name before we get into the game or it's hard to connect. I occasionally get  whispers and/or friend requests from players who I don't know and I usually ignore them.

Is that going to be your user id at launch? If so I'll make a note of it now so I don't miss you again.

Bari...


Title: Re: Goodsongs Are Slowing Down
Post by: Baridoc on March 17, 2014, 07:52:37 AM
Well, I was lucky enough to meet up with Digger's TESO alternate and do a bit of questing in Tamriel this weekend. I have to say it was not a very satisfying experience for either of us. This build had some severe problems and players were unable to complete most quests in the starter areas. Most of the problems seemed to revolve around a single issue... quest NPC's in the game either not spawning or not being clickable.

I'm very much hoping they can get these issues resolved before launch, which is only two weeks away, or there are going to be some very angry and frustrated players who won't be saying nice things about TESO.  And that would be sad because overall it's a  great game. It was fun to quest with Digger's cousin none-the-less and I'm still looking forward to meeting up with all of you in Tamriel.

With all Hobbity affection...
Bari...


Title: Re: Goodsongs Are Slowing Down
Post by: Ariadan on March 17, 2014, 03:38:57 PM
Digger,

LOL - You accepted my friend request (with a note of me telling you that it was me).   :D

Bari,

Yep, that was me.

Ariadan


Title: Re: Goodsongs Are Slowing Down
Post by: Baridoc on March 17, 2014, 04:49:52 PM
Bari,
Yep, that was me.
Ariadan

Well, dang!! Catch you next time, buddy. Or at launch. Are you keeping that UserID?

Bari..


Title: Re: Goodsongs Are Slowing Down
Post by: Digger on March 18, 2014, 08:06:49 AM
I did accept hoping it was you, but I just didn't know.  This social connection process in ESO using userid is strange to me.  I will learn.

Digger


Title: Re: Goodsongs Are Slowing Down
Post by: Ariadan on March 19, 2014, 05:02:28 PM
Yes, I'll be keeping that user id.


Title: Re: Goodsongs Are Slowing Down
Post by: Baridoc on March 19, 2014, 07:42:38 PM
The Psijic server is down for an upgrade tonight and part of the patch notes said this:

"Please note that we found the underlying cause of the broken quest issues that showed up in last weekend's beta test, and we're currently working to fix them. To aid players who want to visit the former starter islands, we've made changes that more explicitly direct you to them, and the tutorial is getting a few final tweaks as well. These changes aren't in today's patch, but they'll be on the PTS early next week."


So evidently the problem with broken quests was a single issue that they're working on. Hopefully it'll all be fixed by launch.

 :)




Title: Re: Goodsongs Are Slowing Down
Post by: Baridoc on March 20, 2014, 02:30:26 PM
The case for the Ebonheart Pact.

IF it does indeed turn out to be the case that any race can play for ANY alliance, I would like to make the case that we begin in the Ebonheart Pact. I've played all three alliances and to me the Ebonheart Pact starter areas are the most beautiful overall, have the most resources and the most engaging quests.

Just my 2 Hobbity cents.

Bari....


Title: Re: Goodsongs Are Slowing Down
Post by: Orophor on March 20, 2014, 08:51:16 PM
I believe the any race can be in any alliance is a perk for pre-ordering:
http://i.massively.joystiq.com/2014/02/18/elder-scrolls-online-answers-more-pre-order-and-imperial-edition/

O


Title: Re: Goodsongs Are Slowing Down
Post by: Baridoc on March 21, 2014, 06:28:28 AM
I believe the any race can be in any alliance is a perk for pre-ordering:
http://i.massively.joystiq.com/2014/02/18/elder-scrolls-online-answers-more-pre-order-and-imperial-edition/

O

Thanks, O! That's sort of what Keth and I thought but I really appreciate actually *knowing*. Still very sad that you won't be with us. You'll really be missed.

Hobbity Hugs...
Bari..


Title: Re: Goodsongs Are Slowing Down
Post by: Orophor on March 22, 2014, 10:12:13 AM
At the moment, the elven princeling demands all my free time that I can claw back from the greedy dragon which is my workload. It would be fantasy to think I could start a new MMO given how little time I have to play the two I do enjoy (LotRO & SWTOR).


Title: Re: Goodsongs Are Slowing Down
Post by: Baridoc on March 22, 2014, 10:35:30 AM
At the moment, the elven princeling demands all my free time that I can claw back from the greedy dragon which is my workload. It would be fantasy to think I could start a new MMO given how little time I have to play the two I do enjoy (LotRO & SWTOR).

Here's hoping that changes in time. If not... I'll see you in LOTRO.

Hobbity hugs...
Bari...


Title: Re: Goodsongs Are Slowing Down
Post by: Baridoc on March 22, 2014, 07:33:41 PM
For those who noted the absence of a mini-map in Tameril, here is a link to a functioning mini-map addon that works very well, or at least works well in my Psijic beta build.

http://www.esoui.com/downloads/info60-ZrMiniMap.html (http://www.esoui.com/downloads/info60-ZrMiniMap.html)

Hope it's helpful to you.

Bari...


Title: Re: Goodsongs Are Slowing Down
Post by: Digger on March 27, 2014, 08:06:34 AM
We can apply the updates directly to our Beta versions starting today.  This is so we are ready on Sunday next.  Download goes fast till around 80% done and then takes awhile to complete.  Allow time.

Digger


Title: Re: Goodsongs Are Slowing Down
Post by: Baridoc on March 27, 2014, 09:11:11 AM
We can apply the updates directly to our Beta versions starting today.  This is so we are ready on Sunday next.  Download goes fast till around 80% done and then takes awhile to complete.  Allow time.

Digger

Thanks for the heads up! Am already downloading. However, I may not be around til a bit later on Sunday. I'll be attending the Emerald City Comic-con all weekend and staying at a downtown hotel. My best friend and I are dressing up as Sam and Frodo again!!

Should be in Tamirel late Sunday afternoon or early evening. Gosh, I hope I can get the name Perigil... but in any case my UserID will be Galan. The TESO customer service people arranged for me to have my beta name for live content. Woot! Let me know here what all your userid's are so we can find each other in game?

Plus... I wanted to raise a couple questions. 1.) Since there is no audio chat in TESO... ????  (and isn't THAT stupid!) I'd be willing to pay for a Ventrilo server for us to use to audio chat. It's cheap. 2.) Any thoughts on Guild names? Somehow Tinnu-uin-galadhrim doesn't seem right.

With all Hobbity love and affection...
Bari..



Title: Re: Goodsongs Are Slowing Down
Post by: Ariadan on March 27, 2014, 03:36:00 PM
I like the fact that we can be in multiple guilds.  As I said earlier, I will be the Gaiscioch guild but also want to be in yours as well.  Check out their first issue of their magazine: www.gaiscioch.com/magazine/

I am required to be in the Ebonheart Pact for their guild.  It would be good if we also could be in Ebonheart.

Ariadan


Title: Re: Goodsongs Are Slowing Down
Post by: Baridoc on March 28, 2014, 06:42:40 AM
I like the fact that we can be in multiple guilds.  As I said earlier, I will be the Gaiscioch guild but also want to be in yours as well.  Check out their first issue of their magazine: www.gaiscioch.com/magazine/

I am required to be in the Ebonheart Pact for their guild.  It would be good if we also could be in Ebonheart.

Ariadan

Hmmmm.. I had thought we were going to start in the Daggerfall Covenant. Digger? Keth? Do let me know where we decide to begin so I can take my character there once I get home and get started. doesn't really matter to me. And it may be a good idea for Keth(?? whoever) to form a guild once we get in game. There are advantages... like the guild bank.

Hobbity affections to all...
Bari...


Title: Re: Goodsongs Are Slowing Down
Post by: Ariadan on March 28, 2014, 07:07:10 AM
Bari,

This is the last post that I saw from you concerning faction:

The case for the Ebonheart Pact.

IF it does indeed turn out to be the case that any race can play for ANY alliance, I would like to make the case that we begin in the Ebonheart Pact. I've played all three alliances and to me the Ebonheart Pact starter areas are the most beautiful overall, have the most resources and the most engaging quests.

Just my 2 Hobbity cents.

Bari....


Title: Re: Goodsongs Are Slowing Down
Post by: Ariadan on March 28, 2014, 07:12:47 AM
Here's what I know about what classes and crafts you are thinking of utilizing:

Bari - Sorceror (woodworking and clothing)
Digger - Templar? (metalsmithing)
Keth - ???

My questions would be what type of Sorceror and Termplar are you planning on playing? DPS, tanky, healer, something else?  I'm finding the choices of characters to be almost overwhelming due to the fact that we can play them anyway that we desire.  I want to be useful in both PvE and PvP but not to the point of worrying about theorycrafting my character.

Ariadan


Title: Re: Goodsongs Are Slowing Down
Post by: Digger on March 28, 2014, 09:15:29 AM
I have been doing some research on my race and class.  I think I will be a Templar again but I will also build a Nightblade.  The Templar is called Uthane with userid Tarlwyn, and the Nightblade is Al'Darja.  Templar need magicka so Breton seems right, and should we be able to choose any race, my Nightblade will be a Wood Elf for the bows.  Crafts are changing for me.  I really need both of these to focus on medium armor, so clothing is the craft with the Nightblade also choosing woodworking and the Templar going with Enchantment.  Both will use Provisioning.  The Alliance of Daggerfall appeals to me most because I know a little about the area, but I can be swayed.  However, Nords are mainly melee chars and tanks, and I won't be a dark elf, cat or lizard cause I can't get my head around such chars.  I would like to start with Daggerfall.

Meanwhile, I am working on the guild site problem and my have a solution later this week that also includes Ventrillo.  I needed a name which I don't have, so I just went with Friends of the Trees for now.  That can be changed later, I think.  Soon as I have a site up, I will let you all know.  We have been busy using the Tinnu site and that is kind of them to let us, but we need our own place, I think.

Digger


Title: Re: Goodsongs Are Slowing Down
Post by: Ariadan on March 28, 2014, 09:27:11 AM
Digger,

Are you planning on using your Templar to heal?  Also, I believe that you can now pick any race you like without being restricted by the alliance chosen.  Is the choice of Daggerfall based on race or familiarity?

Ariadan



Title: ESO Friends of the Trees
Post by: Digger on March 28, 2014, 10:26:28 AM
Just for the moment and for fun, I made a quick website for ESO chatter.  I do not know how to use it all but will learn with your help.  To join the site or guild, use the Membership widget at the top left column.  The URL is http://friendsofthetrees.guildlaunch.com/ (http://friendsofthetrees.guildlaunch.com/).  Let's go there and see if that helps.  If it works, we can setup a ventrilo server there too.

Oh, and Friends of the Trees isn't an ESO guild.  This is just our place to gather, chat, and exchange ideas, pix, and links.  Enjoy.

Digger


Title: Re: Goodsongs Are Slowing Down
Post by: Digger on March 28, 2014, 10:41:21 AM
I like the dual nature of the Templar and plan to do a little healing unless we get into lots of grouping.  Then I will respec for good healing.  The preference for Daggerfall is only familiarity given that I can be a Breton and Wood Elf in any Alliance.  So I am open.  Fundamentally, I just want to play and see what happens as I develop.  I suspect that the racial choices are not important as one levels and advances.  This is going to be a more open char development approach than most MMOs.  So I mainly want to be with friends.

Digger


Title: Re: Goodsongs Are Slowing Down
Post by: Ariadan on March 28, 2014, 12:42:13 PM
It would make it a great deal simpler for me to quest with you if we could join Ebonheart so that I don't have to create multiple characters.  But if Daggerfall is chosen than I am fine with that as well.

Someone just needs to draw a line in the sand and say this is where we are going before we actually get there.

I have a very informative link describing how metalsmithing works and can be applied somewhat to woodworking and clothier.

http://tamrielfoundry.com/topic/myrrons-blacksmithing-guide-for-eso-beta-version/

The gist of it is to find a crafting buddy so that you can craft something and then send it to your crafting buddy (who has the same craft) and they extract the crafted item.  You can far more inspiration (XP) for extracting someone else's crafted goods than your own.

One other thought is that each character learn one hard craft and one soft craft.  Hard crafts take much longer to level up in and include blacksmithing, woodworking and clothier.  The soft crafts are provisioning, enchanting and alchemy.


Title: Re: Goodsongs Are Slowing Down
Post by: Digger on March 28, 2014, 02:19:31 PM
On our new site, Friends of Trees, we can list our chars and their crafts.  This may help get things covered nicely at the startup. 

I have added Ariadan to the site and await word from others.

Digger


Title: Re: Goodsongs Are Slowing Down
Post by: Baridoc on March 29, 2014, 07:51:54 AM
This is the last post that I saw from you concerning faction:

The case for the Ebonheart Pact.

And I do like that area! But the decision has been made for Daggerfall so that's where I'm going once I get online.

Bari



Title: Re: ESO Friends of the Trees
Post by: Baridoc on March 29, 2014, 08:03:04 AM
Just for the moment and for fun, I made a quick website for ESO chatter.  I do not know how to use it all but will learn with your help.  To join the site or guild, use the Membership widget at the top left column.  The URL is http://friendsofthetrees.guildlaunch.com/ (http://friendsofthetrees.guildlaunch.com/).  Let's go there and see if that helps.  If it works, we can setup a ventrilo server there too.



This sounds wonderful!! I tried joining but it said my email address was already on the site. Did you add it, Digger? If not I'm not sure what's going on there. LOL! Far as area goes, like you, I am up for any area. I like Ebonhart, simply because I thought it was prettier and I liked the quests. But Daggerfall is great too. I'll log on here before I make my character on Sunday to see if there's been a hard decision made about area.

Far as crafting goes, it seemed to me that it tended to go a bit more by class. ie: As a Sorcerer I went for Woodworking and Clothier because those are the crafts that I needed to make staffs and light armor. I collected ore to sell, or in OUR case.. to share with guildmates. I did enchanting, alchemy, and provisioning simply as a matter of course because everyone needs those skills. They level more slowly... at least enchanting does... so I was just taking my time with them. Even at that I got pretty far in enchanting. It's a very helpful craft, as is provisioning. Alchemy is helpful too.. but I found it less so only because I HATE their quickslot  arrangement. It's basically set up for console use and is totally useless in combat. That HAS to be changed and we complained long and loud about it. Hopefully others will to after launch. but it can be helpful to have potions even if getting to them is a pain. Foods are more useful, I found.

So do let me know which area is decided upon. I will see you in game on Sunday afternoon.

Love to all...
Bari....



Title: Re: Goodsongs Are Slowing Down
Post by: Baridoc on March 29, 2014, 08:14:04 AM
OK.  Figured out the password thingy. Evidently I was once a member of a guild with a site there. Years ago. Have submitted a request for OUR guild membership and am now awaiting approval.

I'll see all of you soon as I get home on Sunday.

Love to all...
Bari..


Title: Re: Goodsongs Are Slowing Down
Post by: Ariadan on March 29, 2014, 08:20:37 AM
I approved you for the site.  Digger has set up a poll to have members choose the alliance.


Title: Re: Goodsongs Are Slowing Down
Post by: Ariadan on March 29, 2014, 08:33:37 AM
You need to get used to quickslots.  By using potions and food, you increase the output of your damage, the output of any healing skills, increase regeneration of health, stamina and magika, etc.

Also, the more skill points you use for crafting the less you have for your other skills.  I will be playing a Redguard Nightblade that will dual wield and use a bow.  My crafts will be alchemy and blacksmithing.

Since no one else is taking blacksmithing yet.  I will have to create an alt that will use it so that I have a crafting buddy to gain more inspiration (XP).  He will probably be a Dragonknight tank.

Ariadan


Title: Re: Goodsongs Are Slowing Down
Post by: Digger on March 29, 2014, 08:40:54 AM
I read that with armor early on (before lvl 20) we should mix it to get the most advancement of our skills.  Only 3 pieces are required for a 'full' set so the advice was for medium armor chars wear 1 light sash, 1 heavy pauldrons, and the rest medium.  That way all will advance in skill and value to us.  And bonuses for light like magicka also work well.  Same approach for others using light and heavy armor.  Use one of each off kind, the rest main kind.  Also skills on the slot bar level faster; so put our impt skills on the bar and wait for 15 to get 2 bars.

Let's go Ebonheart to aid Ariadan's guild for the start as long as we can be any race.  All agreed?

I posted a good tip link on our Tree Friends site under Helpful Sites.  Please add more links.

Digger


Title: Re: Goodsongs Are Slowing Down
Post by: Baridoc on March 29, 2014, 08:58:17 AM
Sounds good!  I'll see you in Ebonhart on Sunday afternoon. 

Love...  Bari


Title: Re: Goodsongs Are Slowing Down
Post by: Ariadan on March 29, 2014, 09:46:27 AM
Here's some other tips:

1) Open your secondary weapon set by equipping the weapon at 1st level and killing something with it.  Then switch to your main weapon.  This will enable you to level both skills even when you aren't using the secondary weapon.  For example, my main weapon set is dual wield and my secondary is bow.  I will equip my bow and kill something with it to open the Bow line skill called Poison Arrow.  You acquire a second weapon set at level 15.

2) Stamina is important for block, dodge and crowd control.  Don't run out of it.

3) Put a point in each of your weapon lines earlier on in order to start leveling them all.

4) Early on skill points are rare.  You can gain more by finding sky shards and running 4 player dungeons.

5) Acquire as many passive skills as possible but don't neglect your other skills.

6) Find a crafting buddy.

7) The best way to level is by completing quests.

Ariadan

*****I also posted this on the new website****


Title: Re: Goodsongs Are Slowing Down
Post by: Digger on April 12, 2014, 12:46:29 PM
Will you be joining us, Keth and Endi?  If so, we would be delighted to aid your start.

Digger


Title: Re: Goodsongs Are Slowing Down
Post by: Baridoc on April 12, 2014, 07:32:24 PM
Will you be joining us, Keth and Endi?  If so, we would be delighted to aid your start.

Digger

Absolutely!! We really miss you and wish you would join us in Tamirel.

Love always....
Bari


Title: Re: Goodsongs Are Slowing Down
Post by: Kethrandir on April 12, 2014, 08:24:19 PM
I had been looking forward to ESO's launch for many, many months, yet now that it's available, I can't seem to muster the enthusiasm!  The idea of starting a whole new MMO is too much for me at this point.  Summer-time activities are warming up (backpacking, camping, flyfishing, photography, travel...), work is busy, Endingwen is busy, and I'm still enjoying the games I already have.   I'm genuinely glad you all are enjoying your time in Tamriel... from what I saw during beta, it's a spectacular game!  I do miss seeing the three of you, though.  Hopefully our paths cross more often in the future!

Keth