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Kinship => General Discussion => Topic started by: Endingwen on July 27, 2015, 11:23:26 AM

Title: LotRO World Transfers
Post by: Endingwen on July 27, 2015, 11:23:26 AM
https://www.lotro.com/en/game/articles/world-transfers (https://www.lotro.com/en/game/articles/world-transfers)

Of the 29 servers, 5 US and 5 EU will remain.

Timeline:

August 3, 2015:
October 1, 2015:

January 1, 2016:

Logistics:
Naming:
What can/will be transferred:  

I suggest a meeting after the world closures are announced to discuss which server Tinnu should be moved to  :'(
Title: Re: LotRO World Transfers
Post by: Digger on July 27, 2015, 12:08:57 PM
My dear kinfolks,

I am just starting to read the transfer announcement now.  I do think we should use this thread to plan and decide rather than one meeting.  

We need to pick a world and figure out how to get our kinhall and stuff over and ready as well as get our kinship up and registered in the new world.  So a list of tasks to investigate and to do is needed.  This will require quite a bit of planning and prep, so I urge us not to delay too long.

Couple of notes:  All wallet items (festival tokens, taxidermy, etc) transfer with character.  Kin leaders move first then those in kinship are already joined if they choose so.  Kinhall bound items return to owners.  Friends lists must be remade.  Emails will be sent to all who have an account advising them to check with kin on destination and plans.  Home items bound return to owners.  And so much more coming now...

Let's begin the conversation here with which world and what needs to be done?  Okay?

Digger
a worried hobbit
Title: Re: LotRO World Transfers
Post by: Digger on July 27, 2015, 03:12:13 PM
Just another thought about our allies and how do we find out where they are going?  Like SiN, etc.

Digger
Title: Re: LotRO World Transfers
Post by: Kethrandir on July 27, 2015, 11:06:01 PM
Thank you for posting this, Endingwen (what a day for me to be on travel!).  And thank you, Digger, for your early comments!

This is truly a big deal.  Now that we have some detailed information, it is indeed time to have a conversation about how we, as a kinship, would like to proceed.  A couple recommendations to you all:

Most importantly, if you intend to remain with the kin (as I hope you all do!), please consider and share with us all your preferred destination server for Tinnu.  Five US servers are planned for retention.  The servers which will remain open are Brandywine, Arkenstone, Landroval (currently the US RP server), Gladden, and Crickhollow [edited with official info].  As the Devs have noted in the links above, Brandywine likely won't be a option for transfers.

I would very much like to hear from you all on this issue.  I realize that this is a period of great uncertainty, but the closing of Nimrodel seems all but certain.  I've said before that I'll continue playing LotRO until the final server is closed, but it is not this day!  I see many wonderful days ahead for the Tinnu uin Galadhrim.  Like baking a pie or assaulting Carn Dum, our path forward just requires some planning!

Keth
Title: Re: LotRO World Transfers
Post by: Endingwen on July 28, 2015, 09:47:00 AM
I think the discussion will be easier to have after next Monday when we know which servers will remain open.  Here are [current?] server stats, for those interested:
http://lotroaltfinder.net/statistics.html (http://lotroaltfinder.net/statistics.html)

I think my preference would be to join an RP server, but I'll follow Tinnu wherever we go  :)


Edit:  I found these charts comparing server populations: http://lotrocommunity.com/forum/topic/3628-update-on-transfersserver-consolidations/?page=3#comment-118676 (http://lotrocommunity.com/forum/topic/3628-update-on-transfersserver-consolidations/?page=3#comment-118676) 
Title: Re: LotRO World Transfers
Post by: Digger on July 28, 2015, 11:13:05 AM
Thanks, Keth, for being there and guiding us.  I am reading and planning as old geeks are wont to do is such events.  Actually, I am excited by this change though a bit sad to see Nimrodel close, as it must.  (Gathering resources is so much easier with few players. :-))

Personally, I have long wished to join the many activities of Landroval such as Weathertop, the races, and such.  So, I am hoping we move to the rp server.  In all probability and based on my readings, both the EU and NA rp servers will remain for migration.  Of course, I will be with the Tinnu wherever they venture.  Afterall, O and I have a date at the Gates of Mordor.

I am expecting turbulence as we make our transfers.  And so, I am prepared for it both emotionally and physically.  Perhaps the biggest worry is about names.  But I know that no matter what name  Digger is called, he will still smell like a rose or perhaps the same whatever.  So even that bit of a hiccup won't change my engagement with both Lotro and the Tinnu. 

I am impressed with the thought and planning of Turbine for this, and do not intend to be swayed by the trolls of the forums.  However, Turbine has indicated that migration is a process with a fairly clear set of steps.  We begin executing the transfer with the Kin Leader, our Tur, and go from there.  I hope we do this in an orderly manner,  sharing problems and solutions, and encouraging our  old members and allies to join us.

Cheers,
Digger Goodsong
a simple hobbit
Title: Re: LotRO World Transfers
Post by: Endingwen on July 28, 2015, 04:30:45 PM
Vyvyanne just posted some clarifications (from: https://www.lotro.com/forums/showthread.php?&postid=7410979#post7410979 (https://www.lotro.com/forums/showthread.php?&postid=7410979#post7410979)):

1. Are we keeping the most active servers? In some cases, yes. The intention is to move the least amount of players while maintaining some of the more specialized environments.

2. Does the Kinship disband when the Kinleader moves? Yes, it does. This means all messaging to players should be through in-game mail and forums before leaving the world. We can set mail to last longer on the closing worlds (6 months) so that those who log in after the kinleader moves, but before the worlds become unavailable can receive mail on destination target.

3. What happens to a bound item in a Kinhouse from a character that has been deleted or already transferred? Items in this case will be deleted as the owner of the item no longer exists so there is no location to assign that item. If the Kinleader moves before the owner of the bound item moves and the owner has not been deleted, then the item will be placed in the owner's housing escrow account.

4. Transfer of Reaver (or other Monster characters): You can have multiples of one type in cases of transfer of monster characters. In this case you should find a small drop down arrow next to that monster type that will give you a selection of Reavers (or other types) to choose from.

5. Can I transfer to multiple worlds while in the free transfer period? Yes. There is no limitation to the number of transfers you can do. Once the transfers between the remaining 10 are no longer free, however, you will have to pay to move between them.

6. Can you grant more character slots? We are now looking into adding 2 free character slots to all Premium and VIP accounts. We will also have a sale on character slots.

7. Why not do names purely on seniority? A few posters have explained the complication of this already. We had to come up with a solution that would work for Transfers going forward. Going off a seniority based system would result in active players always risking that their name could be changed at any point, not just when they transferred. No solution was perfect. We went with an option that will help free up a number of names for players transferring in, while not disturbing the players who are already there and actively playing the game.
Title: Re: LotRO World Transfers
Post by: Orophor on July 29, 2015, 06:55:55 PM
For my part, I would be fine with transferring to Landroval, if Nimrodel is not one of the remaining 5 US servers.
Title: Re: LotRO World Transfers
Post by: Digger on July 30, 2015, 07:44:20 AM
Basic Goodsong Hobbit Approach:

First, I am stocking up on pies, cakes, and muffins now along with ale, beers, wines and other assorted necessities.  Moving my humble hole is a traumatic experience for me, but I can do it.  My plan is to sleep a lot beforehand, eat a couple of good breakfasts to build my energies, and plunge.  Right after our Tur moves, I will move all of my folks to the new place.  Then Lilly and I have to make any adjustments to how we are called and go over our goods to confirm nothing was lost.  Finally, we can eat again and rest a bit.

Then it is time to find a new manor house and cottages.  This time all of them can hopefully share their borders to reduce carrying from barn to barn or home to home.  Lilly has been all over the Shire and into the Smials studying decorating designs, and she has lots of ideas to decorate our new manor.  Osun will lead the manor folk over to join us and then the really deep resting can begin.  First, we plan a big feast at the new manor.  When all are full and fed, we plan to sleep for two thousand years or more - elf like.  And hopefully, one day, Lilly and I can awake alone and quiet in our new world and home.

That's our plan.  What's yours?  I call it my 'Eat, sleep, & plunge plan'.

Digger
a simple hobbit
in a complicated world
Title: Re: LotRO World Transfers
Post by: Digger on July 30, 2015, 08:14:04 AM
Here is a post from a forum that I follow which may help us:

Pre-move, we're posting info on our forums, our FB group, and via in game mail about what to expect and where we're going, including instructions to wait for the kin leader to transfer and give the all-clear before making transfer requests, but as long as the kin leader is transferred, the rest of the members can go ahead (although they will still want to do their house owners on each account/server first). I've got a long list of stuff I want to make sure they know, and while some of them may read the dev posting, not all of them will even read that, let alone the long pages of questions and answers on the forums.

Post transfer, we'll be watching for a neighborhood with enough houses to accommodate us to open (an empty or almost empty one just for those in our kin most active who want to be in the same spot). We'll have to redo the decorations and kin chests, probably have a kin party while we're at it. We'll rely on in game MotD after that for updates on the kin house status and anything else that crops up. Also will recommend people with significant name changes post their old name in player's notes, at least for now.

Anyway, here's the advanced warning list I've put together so far:
Mail will NOT transfer.
Friends lists will NOT transfer.
If your house owner has not logged in since housing changed in 2014, your housing storage has NOT been updated and you will LOSE YOUR STORED STUFF!
Do NOT transfer before I let you know that the kinship has been transferred!
Aug 3rd servers remaining announced, moves between just those servers allowed.
A couple of weeks later, the first 2 closing servers will have moves opened, then sometime after that, 2 more, etc.
Oct 1st moves between open servers will become paid (moves off of closing servers will always be free, as will account / shared transfers).
Closing servers will close (no longer be playable) at the end of the year.
There will be a "Transfer" button below the "Play" button in the launcher.
You can move individual characters and the account-level stuff (shared wallet, shared vault, wardrobe, house, destiny) separately, or you can move them all together.
You will get housing prepayment credit equal to what you have when you move the house owner, along with the purchase price of your old house. When you buy a new house, you'll have the same storage capacity and such as your old one had. Your stuff will be in the house owner's escrow, except stuff bound to another character (bound items always return to owner).
You may be renamed, in that case, you should have a free rename token you can use to pick a new name.
If you have stuff in characters that you have not logged in for awhile that is now part of the shared wallet, it will remain with that character, NOT transfer as part of the share.
They are doubling the number of purchasable character slots, so you can purchase extra slots to combine multiple server toons onto one server, if desired.
If the transfers make something shared overflow (shared vault, wardrobe, housing storage), it will go into overflow -- as you free up slots in those areas, the overflow items will appear. It will not be lost, but you won't be able to see it until you free up (or buy more, if available) space.
If you want to split your characters between 2 or more servers, you might want to move any items you want characters that are going to secondary servers from shared storage space (shared vault, wardrobe, house) to individual storage space (bags or individual vault), so that it moves with the character instead of the account. You're out of luck with shared wallet stuff, though, sorry.
Please pick up anything that is bound to you that is important to you from the kin house. I don't want anything to happen to it through the automated process.
Title: Re: LotRO World Transfers
Post by: Endingwen on July 30, 2015, 08:30:49 AM
That's some mighty fine hobbit sense, Master Goodsong!

Do let me know which neighborhood the Manor is relocated to, and I will try to find a humble hobbit hole there as well (though, with vaulted ceilings for myself and Thurinien).  I have to box up all my books and scrolls and try not to step on the marbles and throwing knives Thurinien leaves scattered about.  Keth and I were talking last night and he'll try to find a neighborhood where Tinnu's current kinhall location is available.


Aug 3rd servers remaining announced, moves between just those servers allowed.
A couple of weeks later, the first 2 closing servers will have moves opened, then sometime after that, 2 more, etc.


Oh good!  Keth and I are going to be out of town from 8-1 until 8-7 or 8-8.  We'll have computer access for part of the trip, so we should be able to weigh in on server discussions.

Endi

[[Digger, any thought on Landroval as a potential new home?]]
Title: Re: LotRO World Transfers
Post by: Endingwen on July 30, 2015, 01:30:35 PM
According to a new post from Vyvyanne, (https://www.lotro.com/forums/showthread.php?&postid=7412945#post7412945)  after the remaining worlds redistribute themselves, the smallest population closing worlds will be the first to transfer to the new servers.
Title: Re: LotRO World Transfers
Post by: Digger on July 30, 2015, 01:55:39 PM
Ms Endi,

I am heartily in favor of Landy as our new home world or whatever the RP server is for NA.  Now back to packing.

Digger
Title: Re: LotRO World Transfers
Post by: Digger on July 31, 2015, 02:30:47 PM
Kinfolks,

I dropped in on Landroval today and made some characters to reserve my family's first names.  Digger and Sweetlilly were not available.  They are now writing up the paperwork and duplicates to become Diggert and Sweetlillie.  Tarlwyn is staying the same.  Wrynne is becoming Wrynna.  Jeorl and Dagort are the same. 

The idea is to create these false chars to hold the names.  Migrate my real chars; get a rename token.  Then delete the false ones, rename the real ones.  Since Landy is so popular, it might be good to reserve a name or two.

Digger
becoming Diggert
Title: Re: LotRO World Transfers
Post by: Endingwen on July 31, 2015, 04:02:29 PM
Digger(t),

I'm sorry Digger, Ms. Lilly, and Wrynne were taken :(  I just reserved Endingwen and Thurinien.  Willowisp was taken, so I'll have to think of a suitably mischievous name for that hobbit lass.

Endi, a change-fearing lore-mistress
Title: Re: LotRO World Transfers
Post by: Baridoc on July 31, 2015, 07:18:28 PM
Well, THIS, is all like scary and stuff!!

I'd better haul Perigard's butt over to Landy... or at least reserve his and Roree's names. I'm with you guys where ever we go. Anything I can do? Please let me know.

Love to all my dear Kinfolk....

Digger(t),

I'm sorry Digger, Ms. Lilly, and Wrynne were taken :(  I just reserved Endingwen and Thurinien.  Willowisp was taken, so I'll have to think of a suitably mischievous name for that hobbit lass.

Endi, a change-fearing lore-mistress
Title: Re: LotRO World Transfers
Post by: Baridoc on July 31, 2015, 07:33:32 PM
The idea is to create these false chars to hold the names.  Migrate my real chars; get a rename token.  Then delete the false ones, rename the real ones.  Since Landy is so popular, it might be good to reserve a name or two.

Digger
becoming Diggert

Say hello to Perigard becoming Peregard. Also reserved Roree, Dangarr, and Baridoc. 

Do our vaults transfer? I'd better read up on all this. But wanted all of you to know who to look for on Landy.

Peregard, a change-hating Hobbit. :(

Title: Re: LotRO World Transfers
Post by: Baridoc on July 31, 2015, 07:38:49 PM
The idea is to create these false chars to hold the names.  Migrate my real chars; get a rename token.  Then delete the false ones, rename the real ones.  Since Landy is so popular, it might be good to reserve a name or two.

Digger
becoming Diggert

Digger(t), when Roree transfers will it be a problem because I've already reserved that name on Landy? Will I have the chance to rename him when he moves then get a rename token, delete fake Roree and rename real Roree? O Blessed Eru I'm so confused.

*dizzy headed*
Title: Re: LotRO World Transfers
Post by: Digger on August 01, 2015, 05:37:36 AM
Baridoc,

When you transfer, names that are taken (like those we reserve) cause the moving char to get a -1 after their name and a free rename token.  You might hold that token for a week or so because folks may abandon names.  When you deem the time is right, delete your fake character, then rename your real on to that name.  Names should be available in minutes after fake chars are deleted.  Oh, and when creating fake chars to hold names, best have them do a quest or two.  No level is needed.  You just want them to be activated.

Yes, everything in storage and wallets move over.  Items that are in houses and bound (kinhall and homes) go into escrow for their owner.  You get a house, open escrow, retrieve items, and decorate again.

Diggert
Title: Re: LotRO World Transfers
Post by: Baridoc on August 01, 2015, 07:08:23 AM
Yes, everything in storage and wallets move over.  Items that are in houses and bound (kinhall and homes) go into escrow for their owner.  You get a house, open escrow, retrieve items, and decorate again.
Diggert

Thank you so much, Shire-friend. I was having problems even staying logged in last night. I just updated to Windows 10 and now every time I log in I'm  only there for 30 seconds before I get a 'lost server connection' message.... and for some reason I can't talk in the kinship chat without getting an error. Anyone got any ideas?

*sigh*

Worrisome.

Baridoc
Title: Re: LotRO World Transfers
Post by: Kethrandir on August 01, 2015, 08:54:07 AM
Thank you so much, Shire-friend. I was having problems even staying logged in last night. I just updated to Windows 10 and now every time I log in I'm  only there for 30 seconds before I get a 'lost server connection' message.... and for some reason I can't talk in the kinship chat without getting an error. Anyone got any ideas?

Sorry to hear that, Baridoc!  It's a bit of a weird issue, that's for sure.  I'm not seeing any similar reports on LotRO's Windows PC Tech Support forums, but perhaps others will chime in there soon.  A number of people appear to be running LotRO just fine under Win10.   A couple people have reported issues since the last maintenance, so perhaps the issue is unrelated to your OS upgrade.  
???
Title: Re: LotRO World Transfers
Post by: Digger on August 01, 2015, 07:06:49 PM
Howdy mellons,

You know I gotta change my name most likely.  That's a bother since y'all know me as Lilly.  Well, I've been packing and thinking on it.  Sweetlillie doesn't quite work for me cause it just isn't Lilly.  So maybe I will go with Truelilly and then I can be Lilly still.  Whatcha think?

Sweetlilly
Title: Re: LotRO World Transfers
Post by: Kethrandir on August 01, 2015, 08:02:45 PM
Truelilly is a lovely name!

Names are tricky things, aren't they?  The name Kethrandir is important to me, and the idea of changing it has alarmed me more than I thought it would.  Kethrandir-1 almost seems preferable to me than Kethranddir or Kethrandiir, but we shall see. 

I'm very much looking forward to hearing which 5 US servers will be retained.

Keth
Title: Re: LotRO World Transfers
Post by: Baridoc on August 02, 2015, 06:41:52 AM
You know I gotta change my name most likely.  That's a bother since y'all know me as Lilly.  Well, I've been packing and thinking on it.  Sweetlillie doesn't quite work for me cause it just isn't Lilly.  So maybe I will go with Truelilly and then I can be Lilly still.  Whatcha think?

I think it is lovely. And since she IS a true Lilly, it works perfectly. I'm afraid that Daffodile will end up turning into some type of Dandiilion... but not sure yet.

But good news!!  I have FINALLY figured out why I kept getting kicked out with a 'connection to server has been lost'! Well.. I didn't figure it out, but I fixed it. It was in some way connected with the fact that I couldn't use the kinship chat. I reinstalled the game and now all is well. *whew*!

Is there anything else I need to do to  prepare for the move?

PerEgard


Title: Re: LotRO World Transfers
Post by: Digger on August 03, 2015, 07:35:10 AM
Here are the remaining server worlds for us to choose one:

* Crickhollow
* Arkenstone
* Landroval
* Gladden
* Brandywine

The news is at this site: https://www.lotro.com/en/game/articles/world-closure-announcement (https://www.lotro.com/en/game/articles/world-closure-announcement)

Diggert
Title: Re: LotRO World Transfers
Post by: Baridoc on August 03, 2015, 08:41:49 AM
Here are the remaining server worlds for us to choose one:

* Crickhollow
* Arkenstone
* Landroval
* Gladden
* Brandywine

But we're decided to go to Landroval?

Peregard/Baridoc
Title: Re: LotRO World Transfers
Post by: Kethrandir on August 03, 2015, 09:55:43 AM
Landroval certainly seems to be a popular choice, but I'd like to hear from a few more of us before a decision is made.  We've reach out to a few recent and past members but have yet to hear back.  For those who've not already done so, please share your thoughts on your preferred server destination within the next few days.  We'll need to make a decision soon to allow people to prepare for the transition. 

I appreciate everyone's comments so far!

Keth
Title: Re: LotRO World Transfers
Post by: Orophor on August 03, 2015, 10:34:00 AM
I sent a message to everyone that has a registered kinship forum account that has not opted out of receiving emails from the kin. Hopefully we will have some response from our fellows.

O
Title: Re: LotRO World Transfers
Post by: Baridoc on August 03, 2015, 10:40:50 AM
Landroval certainly seems to be a popular choice, but I'd like to hear from a few more of us before a decision is made. 
Keth

Perfectly understandable, Keth. I've reserved the names: Peregard, Baridoc, Dangarr, Dafodille, and Roree on Landroval. If we decide to go to another server I'll reserve them again.. or try to.

Love....
Pere
Title: Re: LotRO World Transfers
Post by: Digger on August 03, 2015, 12:42:56 PM
I sent a message to everyone that has a registered kinship forum account that has not opted out of receiving emails from the kin. Hopefully we will have some response from our fellows.

O

FYI, I did not receive an email like this.  Did others?  Just checking to be sure comms are working.

Digger
Title: Re: LotRO World Transfers
Post by: Kiawyn on August 03, 2015, 02:50:00 PM
You can check out the Player Events forum for a quick look at the things that happen on each server.  That might help everyone choose a new home.

I would like to tell you a bit about one of the remaining servers that I am familiar with, in case you find it helpful.
I would describe Landroval as more of a social server than a roleplay server.  It is RP-E for "roleplay encouraged", without the strict RP rules of Laurelin.
There is a vibrant and creative roleplay community, but there are many other types of social events in addition to roleplay.

MUSIC
There are many amazing and highly organized bands on Landroval. The music community is very strong.
Many of the bands specialize in certain genres of music, have matching outfits, and play on a regular schedule.
Landroval is also home to Weatherstock, an annual battle of the bands that takes place on Weathertop and attracts over 1,000 participants.
A regular public music and storytelling event called "Ales and Tales" takes place every Monday evening with scheduled performances and an open mic.
There are also other events such as Rockfest, Winterstock (a non-competitive Weatherstock), and so on.

THEATER
There are a handful of groups that present plays one or twice a year. Some of the plays are original works by Landroval players.
Many performances take place in parks and scenic locations. Sometimes they use player housing to provide custom sets.

EQUESTRIAN SPORTS
The "Spring Racing Carnival" happens every year in the late spring. Riders participate in qualifier races to earn an invitation to the Championship Cup.
Several other horse races take place throughout the year. These often include horse shows (mounted fashion contests) and coordinated fireworks shows.
There are rodeos with barrel racing, comedy clowns, and name-that-song country western contests.
The Windy Acres riding team performs quadrille dressage (formation riding) twice a year. The team is always open to newcomers.

ROLEPLAY
There are a number of roleplay groups. Some organize server-wide storylines that everyone can participate in, keeping everyone up to date in the forums.
Every October, the Solve-A-Mystery Roleplay Contest lets everyone become an investigator and try to be the first to solve an in-character mystery to win prizes.

SPECIAL EVENTS
These include the Hobbits To Isengard anniversary run, Twelth Night ball every January, numerous organized chicken runs, the Brandywine Bridge Festival, the Festival of the White Lady, scavenger hunts, Bilbo's birthday bash, fundraisers for real-life charities, trivia contests, and much more.


These are just the ones I personally know about.  I hope you find this list helpful.
If you do decide to move to Landroval and need any help getting settled in, you can find me there as Kiralynn.
Title: Re: LotRO World Transfers
Post by: Shandrill on August 03, 2015, 07:43:27 PM
I'm not sure if this is the place to put this, and I'm sorry if it's not.

I've been a very absent player (Life as a single mom is busy, I'm sorry). However, I adore you guys and don't want to be left out. I've read the transfer info, and the feed, and am going to try to reserve my name on Landy.

I have a question about the housing, though. I've not logged in in a while. and the FAQ says:
"Housing storage pre-2014 – previously, housing storage was maintained in a very different way from the current bank-based system. If your character has not logged in since then, those items will be lost"

If I patch and log in, will it convert, and then not be lost? Or is it all already lost?

Thank you for all your help, and for letting me stay with you guys.
Shandrill
Title: Re: LotRO World Transfers
Post by: Baridoc on August 03, 2015, 07:46:02 PM
FYI, I did not receive an email like this.  Did others?  Just checking to be sure comms are working.

Digger

I didn't, Digget. And Baridoc is getting other mail.

Title: Re: LotRO World Transfers
Post by: Endingwen on August 04, 2015, 09:05:46 AM
Greetings, friends!

Kiralynn, thank you for such a thoughtful post; Landroval sounds like a wonderful community!  The sense of fellowship and camaraderie are important aspects for many of us in Tinnu, so your input is very helpful!

Digger: maybe it got sent to a junkmail folder?

Shandrill: It sounds like once you patch and log in, your housing storage gets updated.  I think it's only lost if it isn't updated before you transfer servers :)

All: Keth and I are going to be camping until Friday.  I'll read up a little more on Crickhollow  (https://www.lotro.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?508-Crickhollow), Arkenstone (https://www.lotro.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?113-Arkenstone), and Gladden (https://www.lotro.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?80-Gladden), but Landroval  (https://www.lotro.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?81-Landroval-EN-RE)has my vote :)  

Until Friday, Happy adventures!
Title: Re: LotRO World Transfers
Post by: Emrys on August 04, 2015, 03:36:52 PM
Hi All

Just trying to catch up on detials but we have selected to move to Landroval is that correct? And Hi Everyone
Title: Re: LotRO World Transfers
Post by: Baridoc on August 04, 2015, 04:41:05 PM
You can check out the Player Events forum for a quick look at the things that happen on each server.  That might help everyone choose a new home.

These are just the ones I personally know about.  I hope you find this list helpful.
If you do decide to move to Landroval and need any help getting settled in, you can find me there as Kiralynn.

What an amazing post!! Thanks and many Hobbity hugs are flying your way!!

Baridoc
Title: Re: LotRO World Transfers
Post by: Baridoc on August 04, 2015, 04:41:58 PM
Hi All

Just trying to catch up on detials but we have selected to move to Landroval is that correct? And Hi Everyone


EMRYS!! Hello!! SO glad you're moving with us. You are missed, my friend.

Baridoc and Peregard (new spelling on Landroval) and don't forget Roree!!
Title: Re: LotRO World Transfers
Post by: Digger on August 05, 2015, 08:41:07 AM
At this time, we are waiting to hear from kinfolks about their preferences.  I appears that those of us here on this forum are preferring Landroval, but it is yet undecided.  Once the decision is made by our Tur, then remember to let him move first.  That way our membership in the Tinnu remains in tact.  However, when he moves, our kinship will be abandoned on Nimrodel.  After that, we all move and start the search for homes.

Diggert
the same simple fellow
Title: Re: LotRO World Transfers
Post by: Baridoc on August 05, 2015, 08:58:11 AM
At this time, we are waiting to hear from kinfolks about their preferences.  I appears that those of us here on this forum are preferring Landroval, but it is yet undecided.  Once the decision is made by our Tur, then remember to let him move first.  That way our membership in the Tinnu remains in tact.  However, when he moves, our kinship will be abandoned on Nimrodel.  After that, we all move and start the search for homes.

Diggert
the same simple fellow

A good reminder, Shire-friend. Thank you!!

Bari-Pere
Title: Re: LotRO World Transfers
Post by: Emrys on August 05, 2015, 10:09:09 AM
A good reminder, Shire-friend. Thank you!!

Bari-Pere

Okay I will wait.
Title: Re: LotRO World Transfers
Post by: Drogorn on August 05, 2015, 10:24:56 AM
I haven't played in quite a while, but I would still like to stay within the kinship when the time comes to move. Landroval sounds like an excellent place to take off my boots.
Title: Re: LotRO World Transfers
Post by: Chritien on August 05, 2015, 11:19:58 PM
Hello Kinsmen and Kinswomen,

It has been a while I will be happy with what ever server you all choose. As long as we are there together.
Title: A Saturday all-Nimrodel event!
Post by: Kethrandir on August 06, 2015, 08:48:27 PM
It's so good to hear from you all!  Thank you, Orophor, for reaching out to all our friends via email.  I regret that I've been on the road all week and have lacked the time to conduct a proper outreach effort.  Once Endi and I are back home (Saturday evening, at the earliest), I plan to look through everyone's input and make an informed decision regarding Tinnu's future home.  Keep that input coming!

On the LotRO Nimrodel forum, Trindal (All Shall Fade) has posted a fun message to the players of Nimrodel (https://www.lotro.com/forums/showthread.php?573714-Final-March (https://www.lotro.com/forums/showthread.php?573714-Final-March).  On Saturday, Aug. 8th at noon EST, a gathering and procession of players (to Weathertop!) will gather at the Prancing Pony.  I regret that I won't be able to attend, but it sounds like a great time!  If you go, please consider posting some screen shots here for everyone to enjoy!

Keth
Title: Re: LotRO World Transfers
Post by: Digger on August 07, 2015, 02:17:59 PM
Keth,

I will make an effort to be there and say farewell to old friends.

Digger
Title: Re: A Saturday all-Nimrodel event!
Post by: Baridoc on August 07, 2015, 06:34:54 PM
On Saturday, Aug. 8th at noon EST, a gathering and procession of players (to Weathertop!) will gather at the Prancing Pony.  I regret that I won't be able to attend, but it sounds like a great time!  If you go, please consider posting some screen shots here for everyone to enjoy!

Keth

I'm sad that I can't attend. Have a birthday party to go to or I'd be there. So good to hear from so many old friends!!!

Bari-Pere
Title: The Tinnu are moving to Landroval!
Post by: Kethrandir on August 08, 2015, 06:27:39 PM
All-

Thanks to everyone who chimed in regarding our move! 

Most of you who've posted or contacted me privately have voiced support for a move to Landroval, and the vast majority of the rest have said they'll go wherever the kinship goes.  Notably, no one has suggested one of the alternate US servers (Brandywine, Arkenstone, Gladden, or Crickhollow).  Landroval has been a second home for a few of us for many years now, and I've always enjoyed hearing stories about the many activities and events put on by that community.

So the Tinnu will be moving to Landroval! 

As Digger and others have noted, this transition will be much easier if Kethrandir is transferred to Landroval before anyone else, thereby reestablishing the kinship on the new server.  I'll post details about timing and all of that closer to when the transfer service will be opened for residents of Nimrodel.  In the meantime, I hope this early announcement will allow folks to create new characters on Landroval under your intended names (and gaining a level or two on each) to reserve your names.  Please continue to read the LotRO forums for official info, and stayed tuned here on the Tinnu forums for planning details regarding the big move! 

Keth
Title: Re: The Tinnu are moving to Landroval!
Post by: Baridoc on August 08, 2015, 08:45:45 PM
So the Tinnu will be moving to Landroval! 


Bags all packed and ready to go. I'll keep checking in to see when our illustrious leader makes his move, then follow him. Looking forward to our new home on Landroval!!!

Bari/Pere
Title: Re: LotRO World Transfers
Post by: Digger on August 08, 2015, 08:58:20 PM
The Final March

On Saturday at noon the peoples of Nimrodel gathered together to make a long trek across our old world.  I joined this amazing and often hilariously chaotic adventure, bringing lots of pies, ale, and pipeweed, of course.  We went as far as the Paths of the Dead which our lower leveled players could not yet pass.  We ended appropriately in Nimrodel at the feet of the Lady's statue on a quiet island.  It was a long and challenging journey with many lost and found along the way.  It brought back good memories to this little hobbit who first stepped out of his peaceful home and onto the path of adventure eight years ago, as did many of you.

Now we finish that greater journey and adventure on Landroval, as always, together in the twilight of the elves.

Here is a link to some pictures I made along the way: http://imgur.com/gallery/a3e8E (http://imgur.com/gallery/a3e8E)

Diggert Goodsong
a simple hobbit
Title: Re: LotRO World Transfers
Post by: Kethrandir on August 08, 2015, 09:16:08 PM
The Final March

Here is a link to some pictures I made along the way: http://imgur.com/gallery/a3e8E (http://imgur.com/gallery/a3e8E)

Oh Digger, thank you!  I wish Endi and I had been able to attend alongside you, and I'm grateful that you've posted some pictures for everyone to enjoy.  The shot of you and your rabbit on the steps of Orthanc and the final one of everyone at the statue of Nimrodel are among my favorites.  Cheers!

Keth
Title: Re: LotRO World Transfers
Post by: Endingwen on August 09, 2015, 07:39:19 AM
The Final March

Here is a link to some pictures I made along the way: http://imgur.com/gallery/a3e8E (http://imgur.com/gallery/a3e8E)

I'm so glad you were able to attend!  I'm hoping there will be a Final March of Nimrodel II so that Keth and I are able to join in. 

For those who don't frequent the LotRO Nimrodel forum, Favir posted a touching
video of the Last March of Nimrodel (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CqaiFWdAbGg), and Trindal's screenshots are here (http://www.shallfade.com/gallery/gallery_detail.php?gallery=205272&gid=17132).

Endi
Title: Re: LotRO World Transfers
Post by: Digger on August 10, 2015, 07:59:45 AM
Some useful notes regarding methods of migration:

Recommended Transfer Order

To lessen the chances of item confusion or loss, it is recommended that you transfer any Kinship leaders first, then Home Owners, Shared items, and then other characters or all at once if they are going to the same world.


Diggert
Title: Re: LotRO World Transfers
Post by: Endingwen on August 11, 2015, 01:39:56 PM
Dadi/Tyrla posted some helpful tips on how to deal with naming conflicts.

From the post (https://www.lotro.com/forums/showthread.php?574184-Potential-Incoming-Players-Naming-Conflict-Suggestions):
1) Create a toon and log in. Add your names to the friends list. Check the dates last logged in. If it is 1 year or more (from the time you plan to transfer) you will get the name. If it is close to the date you plan on transferring you may want to postpone your transfer to allow the 12 months to pass.

2) Send an in game mail to the person with the name you want and politely inquire as to whether it is a mule or alt that is not really played. If this is the case, they are likely not very attached to the name. Perhaps they would be willing to rename ahead of your arrival.
Title: Re: LotRO World Transfers
Post by: Digger on August 13, 2015, 07:37:11 AM
Turbine recently held a podcast on the World Transfers.  Here is a link to the transcript of that conversation.

https://www.lotro.com/forums/showthread.php?574416-MMOReporter-LOTRO-Reporter-Episode-286-with-Vyv-and-Frelorn-on-the-World-Transfers (https://www.lotro.com/forums/showthread.php?574416-MMOReporter-LOTRO-Reporter-Episode-286-with-Vyv-and-Frelorn-on-the-World-Transfers)

Digger
Title: Dev. Update Regarding Server Transfers
Post by: Kethrandir on August 17, 2015, 11:37:30 AM
Vyvyanne has posted an update regarding timelines and plans for server transfers here:  https://www.lotro.com/forums/showthread.php?574087-Kinship-Transfer-Guide&p=7426323#post7426323 (https://www.lotro.com/forums/showthread.php?574087-Kinship-Transfer-Guide&p=7426323#post7426323).

Reposted:
"I am glad you guys are set to move as soon as possible, but I would recommend a date in September or October  We found some issues in testing on Bullroarer that we would like to resole before launching on Live. We are finishing up that new build now and hope to have it and the first phase of Live transfers started soon. There will be mails sent out in game as soon as transfer is open for each server and we will also be posting here on the forums and in emails as soon as we have dates, but typically notice will only be a couple days in advance at most as we are walking the balance of getting this out as soon as possible while also trying to make it as error free as possible."
Title: Re: LotRO World Transfers
Post by: Digger on August 17, 2015, 07:05:19 PM
This is good news though we are all anxious to get moving.  This leaves time for plenty of baking and brewing to sustain our long journey.

Cheers,
Digger
not yet Diggert
Title: Re: LotRO World Transfers
Post by: Orophor on August 20, 2015, 12:09:34 PM
With the patch yesterday transfers are live.
Title: Re: LotRO World Transfers
Post by: Orophor on August 20, 2015, 05:24:54 PM
And they disabled it. Apparently transferred characters were having login problems on their new servers
Title: Re: LotRO World Transfers
Post by: Digger on August 26, 2015, 09:43:39 AM
Transfers are temporarily open; Vvyanne writes, 'We are releaseing a patch this morning with the improvements and at that time we will open up the service for 48 hours for the 5 Remaining US worlds: Arkenstone, Crickhollow, Landroval, Gladden and Brandywine (off world only) to shuffle among themselves. The service will then be turned off again Friday morning as we assess the data and wait for some of the new hardware effort to catch up to our transfer progress.' 

Full post is here: https://www.lotro.com/forums/showthread.php?575685-World-Transfer-Status-Update-8-26-2015 (https://www.lotro.com/forums/showthread.php?575685-World-Transfer-Status-Update-8-26-2015)

I would prefer that we not play pioneers here and just hold back until the dust settles.

Digger
Title: Re: LotRO World Transfers
Post by: Baridoc on August 26, 2015, 10:06:29 AM
I would prefer that we not play pioneers here and just hold back until the dust settles.

Digger

I am totally with you on this Shire-friend. Let's just keep brewing ale in preparation for our journey.

All Hobbity Affection...

Perigard/ not yet PerEgard
Title: Re: LotRO World Transfers
Post by: Endingwen on August 26, 2015, 12:20:50 PM
Transfer services with today's update are only available for players already on the 5 remaining servers.  We'll likely be transferring in mid-Sept. to early Oct. (I think Nimrodel has the 3rd or 4th lowest server population), so we still have a few weeks left to prepare  :)

"In mid-September to Early October we expect to start open transfers off of the closing worlds to the remaining worlds. We will begin with the smaller population worlds so as not to tax the old hardware as we transition to the new but still allowing those on the quiet worlds to start getting to know their new communities. In the October to November time frame is when we expect to be able to do the full switch over to the new hardware and data center for everyone and turn on transfers across all worlds. Please note this is our current timeline and is subject to change based on other delays that may occur during build out."

https://www.lotro.com/forums/showthread.php?&postid=7431991#post7431991 (https://www.lotro.com/forums/showthread.php?&postid=7431991#post7431991)
Title: Re: LotRO World Transfers
Post by: Orophor on September 01, 2015, 11:00:37 PM
The Final March

On Saturday at noon the peoples of Nimrodel gathered together to make a long trek across our old world.  I joined this amazing and often hilariously chaotic adventure, bringing lots of pies, ale, and pipeweed, of course.  We went as far as the Paths of the Dead which our lower leveled players could not yet pass.  We ended appropriately in Nimrodel at the feet of the Lady's statue on a quiet island.  It was a long and challenging journey with many lost and found along the way.  It brought back good memories to this little hobbit who first stepped out of his peaceful home and onto the path of adventure eight years ago, as did many of you.

Now we finish that greater journey and adventure on Landroval, as always, together in the twilight of the elves.

Here is a link to some pictures I made along the way: http://imgur.com/gallery/a3e8E (http://imgur.com/gallery/a3e8E)

Diggert Goodsong
a simple hobbit

There is now a video up of the event:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CqaiFWdAbGg

My only critique would be that the Song of Nimrodel (actually why I started on our server) would be more fitting for the music:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wc9hAXocURY
Title: Re: LotRO World Transfers
Post by: Digger on September 02, 2015, 05:44:11 PM
I hope you enjoyed my few pictures, Orophor and kinfolks.  I too found the Song of Nimrodel the reason for being on this server.  So you know, I have a short version of that which I can and did play on my lute under her statue as our parting farewell.

Digger
Title: Re: LotRO World Transfers
Post by: Digger on September 18, 2015, 11:21:21 AM
From the forum discussions of transfers, we may wish to wait until our Tur, Keth, posts here or in another thread before we transfer.  Apparently there is a long lag when the leader transfers before it is actually finished.  Those transferring too soon don't gain automatic membership in their kinship.  So we might consider waiting for our leader to post that he has arrived and waits for us.

Digger
Title: Re: LotRO World Transfers
Post by: Orophor on September 18, 2015, 11:59:35 AM
True. Also at the moment, while the transfer button is visible on the launcher, there is only the option for Elendilmir or Estel to MOVE, everyone else only has the option to COPY to Palantir, the private test server. LotRO's Community Manager Ferlorn said the Palantir copy is open for internal testing at Turbine, and anyone not in the program should ignore it (https://www.lotro.com/forums/showthread.php?577265-Palantir-server-only-one-I-can-transfer-too).

While we wait for our server to be called, I would suggest checking your house and anything that is bound to you that is at the kinhall. Given the reports from transfers done so far, it sounds like two things will happen to the kinhall, everything bound will go to escrow, everything else will go to the personal house chest of the kinleader. To ease that burden on Kethrandir, I removed all the items that were bound to me in the kinhall. Also to be extra safe, I cleared out my whole personal house, removing all the decorations, and emptying my house chest, transferring all of it to my shared storage vault so nothing can get lost in escrow since in the case of bound items in which the owner no longer exists on the original world, those items will be deleted (https://www.lotro.com/en/game/articles/kinship-transfer-guide). Another risk for item loss is if your house owner has not logged in since 2014. Housing storage was revamped in 2014, and if you transfer a house owner that has not updated their housing storage by logging in and accessing their house chest since that update, it is probable that all your housing items would be lost in a server move (https://www.lotro.com/en/game/articles/world-transfers).

So to recap, gather your bound housing items. Log in with all your characters/accounts before you transfer them. If you are a chicken like me and have enough storage, empty your decorations and house chest.

O
Title: Re: LotRO World Transfers
Post by: Baridoc on September 18, 2015, 05:31:04 PM
So to recap, gather your bound housing items. Log in with all your characters/accounts before you transfer them. If you are a chicken like me and have enough storage, empty your decorations and house chest.

O

I wonderful update, O. Thank you. I'm nervous as a Shire-bound chicken about all this, but trust in our leaders to get us all through safely.

Peri/Not yet PerE
Title: Re: LotRO World Transfers
Post by: Orophor on September 18, 2015, 07:01:16 PM
It will be at least a week before the next servers are made available for transfers. If it follows the current pattern, they will announce it a week ahead of time.

When Turbine opens Nimrodel for transfer, it will be up to Kethrandir to schedule his kinship transfer. Transfers today are taking roughly 2-4 hours with a few outliers that are much faster or slower. My hypothesis is the older the character the more complicated the transfer and therefore the longer the transfer takes. Once Keth has given the all clear for a successful transfer, you should start with your house holder (or transfer everyone at once if you're feeling lucky) then the rest.
Title: Re: LotRO World Transfers
Post by: Orophor on September 22, 2015, 07:47:52 AM
As predicted they announced the next servers will go live next week and Nimrodel is not one of them:
https://www.lotro.com/forums/showthread.php?576724-First-World-Transfers-Opening!&p=7446055#post7446055

It looks like we have at least another two weeks till the next pair of servers ar called to start their move.
Title: Re: LotRO World Transfers
Post by: Endingwen on September 22, 2015, 11:27:23 AM
You beat me to it, O! 

My guess is after this next round (Gilrain and Riddermark) the next servers to transfer will be Morthond [DE] and Firefoot [US].
Title: Re: LotRO World Transfers
Post by: Digger on September 27, 2015, 06:15:40 PM
Some good heart made a really easy guide to world transfers and posted it today.  Here is the link to the post that comes complete with pictures and steps:
https://www.lotro.com/forums/showthread.php?577737-World-Transfers-The-Great-Migration-Guide&p=7447112#post7447112 (https://www.lotro.com/forums/showthread.php?577737-World-Transfers-The-Great-Migration-Guide&p=7447112#post7447112)

Digger
Title: Re: LotRO World Transfers
Post by: Endingwen on September 30, 2015, 01:26:32 PM
Next round of transfers:  Eldar and Firefoot (Oct. 5 and 6)  (https://www.lotro.com/forums/showthread.php?&postid=7450640#post7450640)
Title: Re: LotRO World Transfers
Post by: Orophor on October 01, 2015, 07:03:36 PM
Good guess on Firefoot Endi!
Title: Re: LotRO World Transfers
Post by: Ariadan on October 05, 2015, 04:35:46 AM
Digger,

Once you are all on Landroval, I will look you up.  It has been a very long time since I cut my teeth with Tinnu.

Grand regards,
Ariadan
Title: Re: LotRO World Transfers
Post by: Digger on October 05, 2015, 12:22:15 PM
Ariadan, old friend,

Why, we can do more than cut some fine teeth. There are pies to eat, ale to drink, and orcs to bop.  We can have a grand time once more.  I remember so many of our adventures together.  Good to hear from you.

Digger
a simple hobbit
Title: Re: LotRO World Transfers
Post by: Baridoc on October 08, 2015, 08:55:05 AM
Digger,

Once you are all on Landroval, I will look you up.  It has been a very long time since I cut my teeth with Tinnu.

Grand regards,
Ariadan

Missed you!! It will be good to see you again!

Perigard
Title: Re: LotRO World Transfers
Post by: Baridoc on October 08, 2015, 08:58:08 AM
Next round of transfers:  Eldar and Firefoot (Oct. 5 and 6)  (https://www.lotro.com/forums/showthread.php?&postid=7450640#post7450640)


Seen today. Guess we're up soon. *frets and paces*
https://www.lotro.com/forums/showthread.php?&postid=7450640#post7450640 (https://www.lotro.com/forums/showthread.php?&postid=7450640#post7450640)

Anduin and Nimrondel
World transfers off of Anduin will be available on October 12th.

World transfers off of Nimrondel will be available October 13th.
Title: Re: LotRO World Transfers
Post by: Endingwen on October 08, 2015, 09:24:11 AM
You beat me to it!  I'll update Tinnu's MotD and we'll have a plan for transfers [Tuesday  :o ] soon. 

Endi
Title: Tinnu is transferring on October 13th!
Post by: Kethrandir on October 08, 2015, 10:20:50 AM
Greetings all!

The time has come to pack our bags and go on an adventure!  I have posted details regarding our upcoming move to Landroval here (http://tinnu-uin-galadhrim.com/simplemachinesforum/index.php?topic=1497.0).  In short, I will be transferring the kinship to Landroval the evening of October 13.  Please review the details in the linked post as well as the transfer guides and tips referenced as well (here (https://www.lotro.com/en/game/articles/kinship-transfer-guide) and here (https://www.lotro.com/forums/showthread.php?577737-World-Transfers-The-Great-Migration-Guide&s=7a8d8b2620244db6598e01b479d47096)).  

A little bit of forethought and planning should smooth most of the wrinkles out of this process!  It's a nerve-wracking moment, I know, but I have confidence we'll survive the journey.  Please review the above information and post any questions you have here in this thread.  And start thinking about our first Landroval kin party, because one is certainly in order!

Keth
Title: Kinhall locations
Post by: Kethrandir on October 08, 2015, 10:23:04 AM
Also, barring any objections, I plan to reestablish our kinhall in the same location as our existing kinhall, in a mostly-empty neighborhood in Falathlorn where members can also establish their homes.  If anyone has recommendations on alternate locations or housing areas, please post your suggestions here.

Keth
Title: Re: LotRO World Transfers
Post by: Endingwen on October 08, 2015, 10:30:51 AM
Also, for folks wanting a comfy hobbit hole, we could plan a house-hunting expedition to get houses in the same neighborhood  :)
Title: Re: LotRO World Transfers
Post by: Kethrandir on October 09, 2015, 05:53:31 PM
As noted in the other thread and in my edited post above, I've rescheduled our kinship transfer for the evening of the 13th.  In short, the servers are all scheduled to come down that morning to update the in-game store, preventing any transfers until that process is complete.  Why they scheduled the two events for the same morning is beyond me.   ::)

Keth
Title: Re: LotRO World Transfers
Post by: Digger on October 09, 2015, 06:53:28 PM
We have plenty of time, my old friend.  Be easy with them for their hands are surely full at the moment.  We are a patient kinship.

Digger
Title: Kinship transferred!
Post by: Kethrandir on October 13, 2015, 08:20:15 PM
The kinship has been reestablished on Landroval!  Please see my post here (http://tinnu-uin-galadhrim.com/simplemachinesforum/index.php?topic=1497.msg7587#msg7587) for more information.  You're now in the clear to begin your transfers, following the best practices for doing so posted here (https://www.lotro.com/en/game/articles/kinship-transfer-guide) and here (https://www.lotro.com/forums/showthread.php?577737-World-Transfers-The-Great-Migration-Guide&s=7a8d8b2620244db6598e01b479d47096).  Good luck and safe journeys!

Keth